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You can do that.

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Hello. You must be the reporter.

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And you must be Mr.

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Stinson.

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Please, just call me James.

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Okay.

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Where are my manners?

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Please, come in.

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Aren't you a little bit young for a
reporter?

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Maybe. I'm 22, but everyone I know says
I have an old soul,

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so...

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Where would you like to do this?

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Wherever you're comfortable.

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In here.

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Looks fine.

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So, do you mind if I record this?

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No, please.

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I'm tired of being misquoted.

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Understandable.

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Okay.

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First things first.

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Why, after all this time, you decide to
do your first face -to -face interview

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with a small -town college newspaper
after...

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Avoiding the press for years.

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You're not the first person to call me
on the anniversary of the crime.

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But you are the first person to call me
and tell me that they believe I'm not

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guilty.

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The first person to offer to let me tell
my side of the story.

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As you know, it was all over the news.

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It's all that anybody could talk about.
Morning and night, 24 hours a day, every

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channel. Mr. Stinson's murder.

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Guilty until proven innocent by a jury
of your peers, I guess.

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It's a very, very isolating place to be.
Very lonely existence.

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I can imagine.

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Well, maybe we can try to dispel some of
those things, and once the

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story comes out, people will finally see
the truth.

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So, tell me on the record, are you
guilty?

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Am I guilty?

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Of course I'm guilty.

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Guilty of being in the wrong place at
the wrong time.

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I was the last person seen with...
Darlene Davis.

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Yes, Darlene Davis.

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I replay over and over in my head, being
at the club that night, being seen with

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her.

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I try to forget that moment.

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Explain to me, if you will, the blood
found all

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over her shirt.

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The one that...

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I found noted in the police evidence as
taken from the scene of a non

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-consensual sex act.

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Non -consensual.

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Look, I'll explain it to you the same
way that I explained it to the police.

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With truth.

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She had a nosebleed.

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We were together dancing that night at
the club. She got close to me. She bled

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on my shirt.

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What I want to know is why the news
isn't reporting and didn't report that

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was an avid drug user who was prone to
nosebleed.

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Okay.

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Well, the police pulled the security
footage from the club that night.

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You gave them full consent.

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to search your entire home, where they
found Darlene's shirt, which would

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lead to your arrest and trial.

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Why would you lead the police here
knowing that there was that piece of

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that would put you at the scene that
night?

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Why would I hide the shirt unless I knew
it was a piece of evidence?

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I had no reason to not invite those
police into my house.

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Look, when I left that woman, she was
alive.

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Okay.

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Then why did you lie to the police about
where you went after you left the club

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that night if you had nothing to hide?

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I've seen enough cop shows to know that
the police are more than willing to pin

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a murder on an innocent person that was
in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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That's why I told them I went to go get
a hamburger.

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It's a stupid mistake.

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Something that I will regret for the
rest of my life.

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Well, you can see why that story sounds
a little thin, right?

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And then you coincidentally take the
route back

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to your home that was the most out of
the way.

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oddly enough, in the part of town that
had no cameras on the traffic light.

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Turn that off.

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Okay.

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What is this?

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Hmm?

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You said you were coming here to let me
tell my side of the story.

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Not to berate me, not to go over the
facts again, and not to reprove my guilt

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everyone else.

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If there's something going on here, if
you have an ulterior motive that you're

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not telling me about, there is going to
be a problem.

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No.

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Not at all.

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I believe that you're innocent, but...

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With my job, I have to ask the hard
questions.

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I hope you understand.

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Would you like a glass of water?

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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back to the night of the murder just to
clear up any misconceptions.

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Give me your recount of that night.

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Well, I wanted to go out that night. I
had a long week at work.

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I just needed to get something off my
chest, I guess.

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But none of my friends wanted to go out
to the club. They all were...

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Sitting around boring, I don't know, at
this point.

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But I went, and I went alone.

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That's where I met Darlene.

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We danced a little bit, had a couple of
cocktails, and then I went home.

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Alone.

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Tell me about Darlene.

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How was she that night? Was she...

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Happy to take them off.

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Get a sense of her.

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I mean, how much of a sense of a person
can you get in a loud, crowded bar?

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We were, we changed a few words.

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You know, we got a little intimate, a
little close, dance.

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Nothing out of the ordinary.

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I didn't get a sense of her at all.

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I don't get it. Why all this interest in
Darlene?

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Just trying to get a sense of the victim
as well.

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Like I already said, you can only get to
know a person so much in that kind of

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environment.

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But there is one thing that I can tell
you about her.

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She had a certain kind of reputation.

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Reputation for being the kind of whore
that would do anything for

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a fix.

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Some people might even say that she got
what she deserved that night

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I Need to use

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your restroom

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You'll have to excuse me for running off
like that.

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I think I had something that rips at my
stomach.

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It's quite all right.

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I'm used to people running away from me.

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I'd like to continue the interview, if
that's fine.

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Get a little bit more...

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Inside your head?

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Is that why you sat close to me?

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Because you want to get more personal?

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Is that alright?

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I don't think getting personal with me
is a very good idea.

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Well, I think it would be good for the
interview.

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Do you mind if I continue?

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Now tell me, how did you feel when you
were convicted

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of that horrible, brutal murder?

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I felt alone.

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I felt more alone than I've ever felt in
my entire life.

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I felt what real fear felt like.

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I felt...

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Anger.

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I felt rage.

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Terrible.

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I know the feeling.

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My mother died when I was

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very young.

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And while most of my childhood was a
blur, I do remember

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feeling loneliness, confusion,

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fear, anger.

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I felt like I was the only one in the
world that felt that way.

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And then I started having other feelings
creep

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into my mind.

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Darkness.

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It was this thing that just started to
grow inside me.

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And I was so scared.

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I never ran away from it.

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I ran towards it.

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And I embraced it.

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You know what darkness I'm talking
about.

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It lives inside you.

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Doesn't it, James?

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And you acted on it.

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That night, all those years ago.

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You saying that you think that... I
don't think anything.

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I know you killed that woman.

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The fuck is this shit?

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You said you were going to come here and
let me tell my side of the story. You

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said you were going to be different.

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I know what I said.

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And I am different.

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I'm so much different than all of those
other bullshit reporters.

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You're the reason why I became a
reporter.

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Because of you.

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I loved your story and I just wanted to
come and see you. And

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all of my hard work has been for this
moment right here.

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I wanted to know everything.

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And yeah, I lied.

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But I knew that you would never even
consider meeting me if I didn't say

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that I didn't think that you were
guilty. You have to understand, please.

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needed you to tell me. No, show me
everything that you deserve.

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Every little detail.

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I'm not going to do that. I'm not
playing this sick fucking game you're

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no, no.

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Please, like, we have a connection.

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You and me.

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A bond.

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And I came all this way for you to show
me.

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No. What'd she do?

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No. Did she fight you? No.

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Was she this close? Was she screaming?

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No. Show me. Show me!

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Stop this. Show me, please!

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Please! Is this what you want?

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Is this the monster?

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Yes, show me what you did to her.

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Yes!

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Did you hold her down like this?

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Show me who you really are.

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to be a piece of fucking meat. Huh?

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Huh? I would like to make your personal
decisions taken away from you.

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Fucking twat.

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Look at

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me just like she

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did.

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We're on a bench.

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I'm like, you need to live.

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It's a real shame, you know that?

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Such an innocent life.

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To climb on top of it, I want you to put
it

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inside your little body.

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I did it.

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Just like this.

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Looking into her eyes.

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I fucking did it.

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I'm scared to help get someone's
attention.

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It never works.

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What happened to you?

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What did you do to yourself?

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Why did you do this to me?

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You did this to me.

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What the fuck are you talking about?

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You're so easy to fool.

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Do you not even think to Google me?

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There are no Lois Browns that look
anything like me.

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Oh, no.

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And this?

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I'm not getting rid of this.

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The police are going to want to analyze
it when they get here.

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The police?

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Yeah, the police.

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You see, James?

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When a crying girl calls the police and
tells them that she's being sexually

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assaulted... I did not sexually assault
you.

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But James... Your handprints are all
over my throat.

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I'm covered in your DNA.

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I mean, God, look at my face.

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And this time... I'm alive to testify.

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Unlike my mom.

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Your mom?

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Yes.

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Darlene Davis, ring a bell?

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She was my mother.

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You fucking bitch.

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No, no, no, no, no. Let's not make any
rash decisions.

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Look, wait!

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The police are going to be here any
minute.

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You don't have any time to hide the
body.

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You're already going away on a sexual
assault charge. Do you really want to go

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away on another murder?

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You fucking killed her and now I fuck
you. I've got everything.

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Your life, your freedom.

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It's fucking over.

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Bitch, I'm gonna fucking erase you the
same way I did your whore mother.

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Maybe someday.